Legislature(2003 - 2004)

04/09/2003 01:31 PM Senate HES

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             SB  84-TEACHER LOAN REPAYMENT PROGRAM                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR FRED DYSON announced SB 84 to be up for consideration.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY STEVENS, sponsor, said  the teacher shortage will be                                                               
even more of a problem with  passage of the federal No Child Left                                                               
Behind laws.  SB 84  will set up  the Alaska  teacher recruitment                                                               
loan  repayment  program,  which   is  designed  to  help  school                                                               
districts recruit  and retain teachers. It  includes repayment of                                                               
education loans  when the  teachers are  hired by  Alaskan public                                                               
elementary  or   secondary  schools.   It  limits   the  lifetime                                                               
financial  award  to  $10,000  for  an  individual  teacher.  The                                                               
funding would  come from  the dividend,  which would  normally be                                                               
returned  to the  state through  the Commission  on Postsecondary                                                               
Education. The intent is that  the program would operate when the                                                               
funds  are available  and if  no funding  is appropriated  by the                                                               
Legislature,  then no  money  would be  spent.  If an  individual                                                               
leaves  a teaching  position,  they would  not  receive the  loan                                                               
repayment that would be made at the end of the school year.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS explained  that the  proposed amendment  is from                                                               
the  Alaska Postsecondary  Commission and  clarifies some  of the                                                               
language  and expands  the scope  of funding  sources to  include                                                               
federal  funds and  other receipts.  He  said he  didn't know  of                                                               
anyone who was against this bill.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GRETCHEN  GUESS asked  if this program  could be  used by                                                               
professionals in  other shortage areas, like  speech pathologists                                                               
who don't have teaching certificates.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS   replied  that  it's  meant   for  certificated                                                               
teachers in elementary or high school.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GUESS  asked if  they are  only going  to repay  loans in                                                               
areas of shortage or is this for all teachers.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS replied that the  specifics would be developed by                                                               
the Postsecondary  Commission. His  intent is  that it's  for any                                                               
position.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  GARY WILKEN  said  he had  some  reservations with  this                                                               
bill, as well  as SB 154. He understands the  financial burden of                                                               
going  to school,  but he  was  concerned that  this is  slippery                                                               
slope  legislation.  He  came  to the  Legislature  just  as  the                                                               
student  loan program  was  starting  to dig  itself  out of  the                                                               
problems of the 80s and 90s  when it was a give-away program. The                                                               
program is  now robust and has  brought money back to  the state.                                                               
They have brought back about $5  million for the fourth year in a                                                               
row.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  STEVENS shared  his concerns,  but said  this would  not                                                               
make  the fund  any less  healthy than  it is  now, but  it would                                                               
simply reduce  the dividend that  the state receives.  Every year                                                               
the Legislature would have to fund the program.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS.  DIANE  BARRANS,  Executive Director,  Alaska  Commission  on                                                               
Postsecondary Education, explained the  amendments and noted that                                                               
the sponsor was very proactive  on getting the commission's input                                                               
on this bill. One of the  amendments insures that the criteria is                                                               
efficient  to administer  and does  not require  costly activity.                                                               
The second amendment is on page  3, line 14, after "AS 14.42.295"                                                               
to insert  "or any federal  or other funds", the  objective being                                                               
to capture  any funding that is  available for a program  of this                                                               
kind. The others are technical changes.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN  moved  to  adopt  Amendment  1.  There  were  no                                                               
objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS  responded to Senator  Wilken's concerns  saying that                                                               
this bill, rather than requiring  additional funds to be expended                                                               
from  the Student  Loan Corporation  to pay  benefits under  this                                                               
program, it  would simply be  an earmarking in statute  that when                                                               
the  dividend is  calculated  and  goes back  to  the state,  the                                                               
Legislature would  use those funds  to endow the fund  from which                                                               
benefits are paid.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN said  that the  fiscal note  shows 807  new hires                                                               
would participate in the program each year.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRAN  responded that  was correct and  added that  a recent                                                               
study of openings each year  showed about 1,600 teacher vacancies                                                               
and about  half of  those are  estimated to  be new  teachers who                                                               
would  still have  educational debt.  They did  not build  in any                                                               
growth estimate and the details of  the payments would have to be                                                               
worked out in regulation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     How I  would recommend  that it  be structured  is that                                                                    
     when someone agrees to participate  in this program, we                                                                    
     identify  what their  total debt  is at  that time.  We                                                                    
     actually set  aside the amount  of funds that  we would                                                                    
     need to pay to meet  its obligation to this participant                                                                    
     so  we  would  essentially   encumber  funds  on  their                                                                    
     behalf.  What I  don't want  to be  in the  position of                                                                    
     doing  is  telling  someone  there is  going  to  be  a                                                                    
     benefit  for   them  and  then   not  have   the  funds                                                                    
     available.  I   don't'  want  to   come  back   to  the                                                                    
     legislature...One of  the things  I see  the commission                                                                    
     being  charged with  is to  monitor the  amount in  the                                                                    
     fund and  to monitor  the amount that's  been obligated                                                                    
     to   current   participants   and   only   enroll   new                                                                    
     participants when funding is available.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN said that was where  his concern lay - if one year                                                               
they needed  all of the  $5 million  of the dividend,  they would                                                               
not  fund  that particular  year.  There  would  be a  clamor  to                                                               
continue the funding  over and above the $5 million.  He asked if                                                               
they were funding  at the $500,000 level, would  she prorate that                                                               
through the debt or through the number of participants.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS replied that she  could see either scenario occurring                                                               
depending on  a number of  variables. The amount of  controls put                                                               
in  place  will  affect  whether  or  not  that  can  occur.  Her                                                               
objective would be for it not  to occur. Since the board is given                                                               
some latitude  to set  the criteria for  the program,  they might                                                               
define  critical shortage  areas and  target the  money to  those                                                               
areas.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN asked  her if  she saw  any problems  with trying                                                               
this for five years.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. BARRANS answered  that was more of a  political question than                                                               
a financial question  and, if it was structured  correctly at the                                                               
outset, they would  not be in a financial hole  in terms of being                                                               
obligated to pay benefits.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN complimented Ms. Barrans on running a great show.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS.  MARY  FRANCIS,  Executive Director,  Alaska  Association  of                                                               
School Administrators, supported SB 84.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
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MS. FRANCIS said that last year  only about 300 educators came in                                                               
to look for Alaskan jobs.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JOHN  ALCANTRA,   Government  Relations  Director,  National                                                               
Education  Association,  supported  SB  84 for  all  the  reasons                                                               
stated previously.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  WILKEN  moved  to  report  SB  84  from  committee  with                                                               
individual recommendations  and attached fiscal note.  There were                                                               
no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                            

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